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apkJeremyK
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USA
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Posted - 11/26/2013 :  09:39:41 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have been trying to search for answers on how to do this but I just don't know the right way to find the information.

I currently have a home security system that is not monitored but is wired to all the sensors that all run back into my box. I want to be able to change out my system to work with the Mi Casa Verde VeraLite.

I know the veralite speaks multiple signals, I just don't know how to convert my system to speak one of those systems.

Thanks

nosebreaker
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Posted - 11/26/2013 :  11:10:03 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You could buy a sensor that has a regular on/off for those magnetic reed switches, like this: http://www.automatedhome.co.uk/reviews/fibaro-3-in-1-z-wave-door-window-sensor-review.html

Since the switch is zwave, it should work with veralite.
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Tfitzpatri8
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Posted - 11/26/2013 :  11:18:43 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Doesn't a device built for the UK market use a different radio frequency than devices built for the U.S., where the original poster is at?

If you can't find the compatibility info you need at the manufacturer's site, you might want to consider the ISY as an alternative interface. Universal Devices has a terrific support site at http://forum.universal-devices.com .

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BLH
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Posted - 11/26/2013 :  12:32:48 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Zwave Alliance web sits shows the US as 908.42MHz and Europe as 868.42MHz. So no mix and match for devices from different areas of the world.
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apkJeremyK
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Posted - 11/26/2013 :  1:23:33 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
@nosebreaker, I don't want to buy all new sensors. I want to use my existing wired sensors that cover every door and window in my house. I know there is a way to capture those sensors and relay them to a newer panel, I just don't know what I need in the middle to do this.

A security company was going to do this to make my current sensors work with the Honeywell Tuxedo, however I refuse to pay monthly for someone to email me that my system emailed them about an alert.
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stusviews
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Posted - 11/26/2013 :  3:28:26 PM  Show Profile  Visit stusviews's Homepage  Reply with Quote
In order to interface two disparate protocols, it's necessary to know what each one is. A possible solution depends on the particular home security system you currently have.

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apkJeremyK
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Posted - 11/27/2013 :  06:19:50 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Understood, I will look up what my current system is when I get home.

I want the system to interface with VeraLite http://getvera.com/controllers/veralite/. A different controller would be fine as long as I can communicate with zwave or INSTEON. Also want the ability to get email notifications without paying monthly.

As soon as I get home I will get the current security system information and post it. Sorry for the noobie knowledge :)
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nosebreaker
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Posted - 11/28/2013 :  08:13:01 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
@apkJeremyK, I understand, you have magnetic reed switches in your home now (About $3/ea individually, far cheaper in bulk, very common) and they are hardwired. You want a device that you can screw down those hardwired switches onto. The switch I sent does that, but only one additional switch. I did you realize you were in the UK though, so don't buy the one I sent!

People often buy an alarm system that is compatible with their zwave system, most people do not suggest running vera as the security system itself. Here's a post where they talk about doing just what you say:
http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php?topic=12005.0

I ended up buying a new security system and getting a zwave bridge. I use the Honeywell Tuxedo to do it, but I will probably add a VeraLite as a secondary zwave controller.
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apkJeremyK
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Posted - 12/02/2013 :  11:43:51 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Does the honeywell tuxedo allow you to get notifications of alarms without paying monthly?
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apkJeremyK
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Posted - 12/04/2013 :  10:09:02 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://www.interlogix.com/intrusion/product/concord-4

That is the current system I have. Is it possible to connect this with a Vera?
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apkJeremyK
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Posted - 12/09/2013 :  06:07:12 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Anyone here know exactly what I would need in addition to the product I listed in previous post in order to get my sensor information into Vera?
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nosebreaker
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Posted - 01/21/2014 :  10:21:39 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I did a search to see if you could connect that to Vera via ZWave, but I can't find anything definitive. It might be easier to just replace it with a system that has some sort of bridge.

The Tuxedo is just to enable zwave devices to be controlled by that panel, it has an IP address and wireless so I can remotely log into it and turn lights and devices on/off. I ended up buying a VeraLite to control my devices later though, the tuxedo wasn't able to do some more complex zwave features.

The Vista21IP panel allows you to receive notifications without a subscription, you can configure it to alert just you, but I use a service.
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Master Do
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Posted - 03/13/2014 :  1:07:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I found this product from fortrezZ that converts 4 wired signals to zwave but the company told me they do not know when it will be available:

http://www.fortrezz.com/index.php/products/mimo

This one is on Amazon but it only has 1 input/1 output. I have 12 wired sensors to it would cost me $600.00 to convert all of them to zwave.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B6RZ7MM/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=37T05O9BNO483&coliid=I2IGSDG0EAF3LP

One reviewer used this + a zwave garage door sensor to remotely detect if the garage door is open and close it.

http://www.amazon.com/ECOLINK-Z-Wave-Garage-Door-Sensor/dp/B00HGVJRX2

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Oleger
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Posted - 03/17/2018 :  12:58:24 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
One good solution is to use https://www.kaaproject.org/. In their framework, all the drivers for different sensors are already included + web gui + smartphone support. I'm combining Zwave and Aotrio sensors and everything works fine.
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WirefreeAU
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Posted - 03/17/2018 :  6:23:43 PM  Show Profile  Visit WirefreeAU's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi @apkJeremyK,

You can connect Fibaro binary sensors to the alarm system sensor wiring. This will allow you to pick up the signal from PIRs and reed sensors to trigger automations in your smart home system, but it's a one way street. You wouldn't be able to control the alarm system directly.

Some alarm manufacturers have started to allow high level interfacing with smart home controllers. As an example, Fibaro (https://www.fibaro.com) works with DSC and Vera Control (https://getvera.com) works with Bosch. Wirefree (https://www.wirefree.com.au/pages/security) currently offers the Vera integration in Australia.
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