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davidm
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Posted - 06/11/2017 :  3:57:11 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm a long time X-10 user who is thinking of migrating to Insteon. I'm a little confused about what to use as the "controller" in place of my CM15A - a hub, an ISY device, or a "modem" such as the 2413U. I prefer to control the system from a PC over using a smartphone, but I want the system to run without the PC being powered on.

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Posted - 06/11/2017 :  5:31:51 PM  Show Profile  Visit stusviews's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The Hub is meant primarily for a smartphone. The Windows app is meager and allows for only the simplest of systems.

If you want to control the system using a PC, then your only choices are software or an ISY. Both are somewhat costly. Software requires that the PC be left on 24/7, so your only real choice is an ISY.

If budget is an obstacle, then you can start with the lowest cost ISY and add/upgrade s bit at a time or you can choose anything in between.

BTW, the 2414U is not a stand alone Insteon controller. You'll need to write your own software or use it with other software. The 2414U was discontinued years ago. You may not be able to find anything that uses it. It cannot handle extended messages which virtually all new Insteon devices use.


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BLH
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Posted - 06/20/2017 :  12:31:02 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The ISY994i uses a 2413S PLM to interface. For processing X10 and Insteon messages.
There is a model that has an accessory Z-Wave module in it. It can used alone if there is no X10 or Insteon. Only Z-Wave.
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sutphinwb
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Posted - 12/04/2017 :  3:21:51 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You could use software with computer on a stick. Still, it's $120 for the stick, $70 for the PLM and $50 for the software. Too bad the hub doesn't do more, but it goes sometimes pretty cheap when smarthome is in a mood. If the hub was "smarter" I think smarthome would make up the cost in selling gadgets, but they're not called "smartmarketers" are they?
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Posted - 12/04/2017 :  7:12:24 PM  Show Profile  Visit stusviews's Homepage  Reply with Quote
IMO, SH did the correct thing by creating an entry level HA device. There's nothing comparable.

There are a few costly devices, but no middle-of-the-road Insteon controller for good reason. It's been tried by Insteon Labs over the years and just didn't sell over a period of time, for example the SmartLinc and the TouchLinc.

Adding even a little more ability does increase the cost, and thus the price. Users who want more usually want a lot more. Such products are available that do that and, as expected, are considerably more costly to create. But that's what HA enthusiasts want and feel that they need.

The Hub is a low cost solution and is adequate for many users.

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