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bbarbour24
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Posted - 06/26/2017 :  11:46:49 AM  Show Profile  Visit bbarbour24's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Everyone is familiar with the smart thermostats like Nest and ecobee that can save you ~20% on your energy bill. These products work great for low voltage heating like furnaces and heat pumps.

Unfortunately, 1 in 3 Canadian homes and 1 in 10 US homes have high voltage heating, like electric baseboards or fan-forced heaters.


Mysa Smart Thermostats are the first smart thermostats that are compatible with these high voltage systems.

We've received A LOT of messages from people saying that they've been waiting for this product. It will integrate with Google Home, Apple HomeKit, Amazon Alexa, and other popular home assistants. You can read about our planned smart home integrations for Mysa on our website: https://getmysa.com


We have created this tool to calculate how much you can save each year with our smart thermostat: https://getmysa.com/energy-savings-calculator/

Feel free to send us a message here or on our website. We'd love to hear your feedback!

stusviews
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Posted - 06/26/2017 :  12:23:16 PM  Show Profile  Visit stusviews's Homepage  Reply with Quote
There are others, for example:

https://amazon.com/SIGNATURE-Touchscreen-Programmable-Dual-Voltage-Thermostat/dp/B00KHA6MEG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1498504598&sr=8-1&keywords=baseboard+wifi+thermostat
https://amazon.com/King-Electric-ATMOZ1-240-WIFI-Voltage-Thermostat/dp/B01MT3XG7V/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1498504598&sr=8-4&keywords=baseboard+wifi+thermostat

and a device that allows you to use any WiFi thermostat with baseboard heating:
https://amazon.com/Aube-RC840T-240-Switching-Electric-Transformer/dp/B0037MXM1C/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1498504598&sr=8-9&keywords=baseboard+wifi+thermostat

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bbarbour24
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Posted - 06/27/2017 :  02:57:23 AM  Show Profile  Visit bbarbour24's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Stusviews, thanks for your response!

Those are definitely alternative thermostats for high voltage heating, but they are not smart thermostats. They can save you ~12% on your heating bill, whereas smart thermostats will save you ~20% on your heating bill. As you can imagine, that is a substantial difference after just a couple years.

Here are some key issues that we keep hearing for those alternatives:

1. Simple programmable or Wi-Fi thermostats lack the machine learning capabilities that exist in Nest, ecobee or Mysa. For example, a smart thermostat can use geo-fencing to detect when if you leave your house early or arrive late. This feature helps to really maximize your energy savings! You read more about the smart features at https://getmysa.com.

2. Programmable thermostats require you to re-program each thermostat when the power goes out. High voltage heating is common in the Northern US and Canada, so snowstorms are expected each winter. Programmable thermostats are also pretty complicated to set up and many people forget to re-program them after a blackout, so they donít actually receive the 12% savings. A smart thermostat allows your to create a heating schedule for all of your thermostats at once and it stores your heating schedule in the cloud, so you never have to re-program them again.

3. The Aube solution is too expensive. If you use an Aube relay to install Nest or ecobee in your house, then you need to purchase one for every smart thermostat in your house. If you want to install Nest in 5 rooms of your home, then you must buy 5 Nest thermostats (5 X $250 = $1,250 USD) + 5 relays (5 X $50 = $250 USD). Thatís $1,500 USD. Itís definitely not very affordable or ideal!


Mysa Smart Thermostats are the only smart thermostats specifically designed for baseboard heaters. They are more affordable, more convenient, and save more money.
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Geo
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Canada
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Posted - 06/27/2017 :  08:19:07 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm not sure how common baseboard heating really is - the 1 in 3 homes in Canada seems rather high. Perhaps it's true on the West coast where the winters are mild. It should also be noted that electric baseboard heating is the most expensive heating there is. One of the first questions real estate agents ask is what kind of heating systems is used.

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bbarbour24
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Canada
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Posted - 06/27/2017 :  12:43:58 PM  Show Profile  Visit bbarbour24's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hey Geo,

There are several provinces where electric baseboard heating is prevalent. Due to the geographical barrier of the Rockies, it isn't very feasible to transport natural gas from Alberta to the west coast (BC and Washington.)

There are high concentrations of electric heating in Canadian provinces like British Columbia, Quebec, and Newfoundland Labrador.

In regards to the cost of heating systems, it really depends on several factors. The biggest influences are the costs of electricity and gas, which vary in every region. For example, electricity in Newfoundland may cost $.12/kwh while in New York it may cost $.26/kwh.

Each province and state has unique circumstances, so Mysa has this energy savings calculator: https://getmysa.com/energy-savings-calculator/


Edited by - bbarbour24 on 06/27/2017 12:45:53 PM
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