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JoeClark
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Posted - 08/01/2017 :  08:06:46 AM  Show Profile  Send JoeClark an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Hello,

I am doing a fairly large project with all new hvac as well as building a home theater and my energy consumption has always been through the roof. I average 2,000 KWH a month already and my new additions may cause it to increase. I had an electrician laying out wires tell me I have some type of electrical problem, because 2,000 KWH is way too much for what I am using. He said I should install an electrical monitoring system to figure out where the power is going.

I have see a bunch of plug in ones that you have to manually plug everything in but I don't want to do that. i also see the energy detective that has mixed views.I went through Energy Monitoring Video to know more but wasn't satisfied.


Anyone recommend a product for this application.

Thank you.

Joe Clark

Geo
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Canada
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Posted - 08/02/2017 :  05:40:23 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You don't necessarily have to spend money on equipment whose cost may exceed any potential saving many timnes. Just take a pencil and a piece of paper and list all your appliances with their power requirements - every electrical appliance must state it on its name plate. The fridge, the freezer and your heat pump will be most likely at the top of the list. After that just monitor how may hours is every appliance operating. You'll quickly find the main power hogs.
You can verify the appliances' power draw by simply measuring their current - an ammeter which just clamps around the wires is fairly inexpensive and a nice thing to have anyway.
Having an electrical problem short of someone tapping into your power lines and stealing the power from you doesn't seem likely.

GJN
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Anthony Johnson
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Posted - 12/14/2017 :  11:11:09 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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stusviews
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Posted - 12/15/2017 :  12:16:04 AM  Show Profile  Visit stusviews's Homepage  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by stusviews

[quote]Originally posted by JoeClark

Hello,
I have see a bunch of plug in ones that you have to manually plug everything in but I don't want to do that


There are many thing that people don't want to do, but life makes that premise invalid.

Yes, if there's one or two devices that have a high energy draw and you can reduce use of those device, then your energy bill will be reduced. You need to identify those devices, but as Geo warned, you certainly don't want to spend more than than you can save.

So, the electrician is somewhat right. You do need measure the power drawn. But, measuring the collective use of devices really won't help, one device at-a-time is what you need.

A very useful device for anything that plugs in is any of these meters.

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Geo
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Posted - 12/20/2017 :  2:21:43 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's very unlikely you have a defective appliance drawing too much power. Every appliance has a sticker with its power consumption. It should be easy to identify the hogs. Years ago I saved a fortune by switching from electric range, oven, water heater, cloths dryer and a heat pump to gas. But that option isn't available to everybody.

GJN
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EVIL Teken
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Posted - 02/26/2018 :  4:03:10 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The most comprehensive energy monitor / energy management system in the market today that integrates tightly with Insteon, Z-Wave, ZigBee, ISY Series Controller,: http://www.brultech.com/

Teken . . .

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digiark
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Posted - 03/09/2018 :  02:37:28 AM  Show Profile  Visit digiark's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Overall, this is a really awesome product. Thank you so much for the resources where we can get energy saving products.
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jamescobb
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USA
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Posted - 04/04/2018 :  06:32:19 AM  Show Profile  Visit jamescobb's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Maybe a good audit throughout your home system appliances can help you pinpoint where huge power consumption has taken place.

For example, you may want to check for several electronic devices that are still plugged into the socket walls even if you are not using them. Modern appliances may put into standby mode but in fact it still draws small amounts of electrical power. Although minimal wattage, but a prolong duration multiplied by the total number of appliance all throughout your house might surprise you that it is significant.

Identify which among your home appliances are power hungry for example HVAC, dishwashers, and laundry washer and dryer. These machines draw a huge amount of power that can easily shoot your electricity bills to the roof.

Another area where there is opportunity to look into are your lights. Misuse to turning lights ON, but forgetting to turn OFF when no one is around can draw significant amount of your electricity. You may want to consider putting lights on specific areas of a room such as your kitchen table, chairs, couch or workspaces whereby you only turn one light at a time when required. Avoid a full room ceiling light which is in fact less effective.

Hope these tips may help you narrow down your problem and find a good compromise to reduce your next electric bill.

Cheers!
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Geo
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Posted - 04/04/2018 :  09:16:56 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Have you noticed how despite the incessant calls for conservation, industries continue to come up with tons of seldom useful, often unnecessary gimmicks, all consuming energy and resources? Rather than reading labels, we want an electronic monitor, few products today are repairable, their life shorter than in the past; instead of turning the cap off a bottle by hand we need an electrical appliance to do it for us. It's mostly for convenience, sometimes not even for that. Just a gimmick. So are we really serious about conservation?

GJN
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