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KHouse
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Posted - 04/10/2018 :  11:49:43 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Current setup:

ISY 994i
Many Insteon Switches + Smoke Bridge/OneLink Detectors
Elk M1 w/wireless Honeywell sensors
*My Elk can, but does not currently talk to the ISY. That is, I have the Elk contact me if any alarm goes off, but I don't have it controlling anything Insteon via the ISY. The home automation and the home alarm are basically separate the way I use them.


I've got several Smoke/CO OneLink detectors hooked up via the smoke bridge. The ISY sends me texts / phone call when any of the alarms go off, as well as turns on all of the lights in the home (Insteon light switches). When my wife cooks, all of the lights turn on just before the smoke alarm goes off. Safe, and quite entertaining and she knows the alarm is coming and nothing she can do at that point.

I've got another bedroom which will be used now (newborn baby coming soon!) so wanted to add a new OneLink smoke/CO detector in that room (right now that room just has a simple "dumb" smoke detector).

However, I've found that First Alert changed the OneLink detectors, and only the "older" ones will work with the Smoke Bridge (the ones I currently have).

My existing detectors were purchased in 2014, so nearing the end of their life. Rather than add an older product to match the "old" products I already have and have the system not work in a few years (what a bummer this is!), I'm thinking of changing-up my smoke/CO detecting system.

Is there a new/better alternative that I can hookup via the M1, and have the ISY (or the Elk) send me these same notifications? I'm OK with switching all detectors in the house to a "better" system.

Essentially I want it to do the same thing the current system does (call/text/turn on all of the lights), but I don't want an outdated system, and it would be better anyway to have it hooked up to the M1 so that the alarm company also gets notification of this. My home is about 30 years old, no hardwired alarms, so we use battery operated detectors.

Any help is appreciated!

EVIL Teken
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Canada
2352 Posts

Posted - 04/13/2018 :  8:09:20 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KHouse

Current setup:

ISY 994i
Many Insteon Switches + Smoke Bridge/OneLink Detectors
Elk M1 w/wireless Honeywell sensors
*My Elk can, but does not currently talk to the ISY. That is, I have the Elk contact me if any alarm goes off, but I don't have it controlling anything Insteon via the ISY. The home automation and the home alarm are basically separate the way I use them.


I've got several Smoke/CO OneLink detectors hooked up via the smoke bridge. The ISY sends me texts / phone call when any of the alarms go off, as well as turns on all of the lights in the home (Insteon light switches). When my wife cooks, all of the lights turn on just before the smoke alarm goes off. Safe, and quite entertaining and she knows the alarm is coming and nothing she can do at that point.

I've got another bedroom which will be used now (newborn baby coming soon!) so wanted to add a new OneLink smoke/CO detector in that room (right now that room just has a simple "dumb" smoke detector).

However, I've found that First Alert changed the OneLink detectors, and only the "older" ones will work with the Smoke Bridge (the ones I currently have).

My existing detectors were purchased in 2014, so nearing the end of their life. Rather than add an older product to match the "old" products I already have and have the system not work in a few years (what a bummer this is!), I'm thinking of changing-up my smoke/CO detecting system.

Is there a new/better alternative that I can hookup via the M1, and have the ISY (or the Elk) send me these same notifications? I'm OK with switching all detectors in the house to a "better" system.

Essentially I want it to do the same thing the current system does (call/text/turn on all of the lights), but I don't want an outdated system, and it would be better anyway to have it hooked up to the M1 so that the alarm company also gets notification of this. My home is about 30 years old, no hardwired alarms, so we use battery operated detectors.

Any help is appreciated!



You can augment what you have in place now but will require investment of funds to do so. Firs thing for tight integration is to purchase the ISY ELK module.

This will allow you to use and interact with the Insteon network. Next since you don't have a hardwired smoke network you can purchase one of the ELK wireless modules and interface with their RF only smoke detectors.

That should get you started on the replacement process once the sensors expire.

Information Only: The latest generation of the One Link sensors now have a 7 year service life vs the 5 years.

Teken . . .

Want to make a real difference? Cast your vote to make the PLM Pro a reality: http://forum.insteon.com/forum/main-category/new-insteon-device-wish-list/8221-plm-pro
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KHouse
Junior Member

30 Posts

Posted - 04/21/2018 :  10:45:24 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the info.

I do have the ISY Elk Module already (utilizing the Elk and Honeywell wireless sensors for security), but in the end I purchased some more of the old OneLink sensors.

Just to update this for others in the future.

The old design First Alert OneLink alarms are round. The new design OneLink alarms are square.
The old (round) designs work with the ISY. The new (square) designs do NOT work with the ISY.
The old design and new design detectors are not compatible to each other.
The old (round) designs are now sold under the First Alert name, shipping in BRK labeled boxes. The round designs also no longer say OneLink on them. They just say "wireless" on them, but they still have the old OneLink technology in them and can connect to those round detectors that say OneLink on them.
The new (square) designs say OneLink on them, BUT, they are NOT compatible with the old (round) designed OneLink detectors.
For some dumb reason it looks like First Alert kept the OneLink name for their new style detectors and changed the detectors technology and shape to be square....and licensed out the old OneLink technology, without the name, along with the old design to BRK. So the BRK detectors are the same as the old First Alert OneLink detectors, though they no longer say OneLink on them.
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