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3base
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Posted - 02/10/2016 :  8:21:58 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hi,
will 2245-222 hub work in Australia?
it states:
supply voltage 120-277 Volts AC, 50/60 Hertz, single phase
in the spec.

Australia is: 240V 50HZ.
so would it work?

if yes then:
going by the last 3 digits 2245-xy2
x = America so i assume that the RF wont work with my existing devices, but would the command still be sent through the power lines?

thanks all!

stusviews
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Posted - 02/10/2016 :  9:41:58 PM  Show Profile  Visit stusviews's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yes, but if the RF interferes with safety (e.g, emergency vehicles passing by, overhead drones or airplanes, security, etc.) or any other jurisdictional rule, then you may be subject to arrest, fine and/or jail depending on your location. Or not.

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BLH
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Posted - 02/11/2016 :  03:25:17 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The USA frequency is 915MHz.
Australia is 921MHz.
EU is 869MHz.
So modules for your country that use RF communications will not work.
Stu covered the possible harmful RF interference you could cause to local communications.
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3base
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Posted - 02/11/2016 :  2:57:13 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thank you for you response.
i was aware of the freq. difference and was making inquires (ACMA) with the legalities of it here in Australia.

Two additional questions.
1:
if it is fine:
all my devices (plugin dimmer, plugin relay, led bulbs) are 921MHz.
The hub (2245-222) RF would be useless to me so i would be reliant on hub to send signals down a powerline to operate. Once it hits a device (921MHz) wouldn't the device (921MHz) then repeat via both powerline and RF (921MHz) to the rest of the network?
http://www.insteon.com.au/How_INSTEON_Works.html

2:
could i run multiple hubs on the same network.
eg.
2242-522 - hub, what i have
2245-222 - what i want.

Background:
reason why i want the 2245-222 is because i want to connect my harmony elite to it and amazon echo. all other hubs are not compatible.

could homeseer be another option?

thanks for all you help!
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stusviews
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Posted - 02/11/2016 :  5:07:07 PM  Show Profile  Visit stusviews's Homepage  Reply with Quote
A difficulty is that you cannot turn the RF off, so the legal issues remain.

An ISY can be equipped with an IR receiver.

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3base
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Posted - 02/11/2016 :  8:01:30 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i would prefer a ISY but was under the impression that i could not connect to it because of the unavailability of serial PLM in Australia (240v issue) or a bit of soldiering and coding to connect to a hub:
https://www.reddit.com/r/homeautomation/comments/3gx4ed/question_isy994i_insteon_in_australia_or_uk_240v/

homeseer has a plugin that allows my hub to act as a PLM, hence me mentioning homeseer.

would gladly entertain any option but would like to utilise harmony elite, amazon echo, kodi.
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3base
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Posted - 02/11/2016 :  8:29:57 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
openhab is another option which allows Insteon PLM Binding.

listen all, thanks for all your help.
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Sydney2153
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Australia
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Posted - 01/21/2019 :  7:21:18 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
3Base - I can confirm that the power line signals will be sent from the Hub to other insteon devices.
Also - once the power line signals are received they will be re transmitted by the device in the 921MHz frequency.

I can also confirm that any RF signals transmitted in the 915MHz frequency do not appear to impact other devices in the area.

I can also confirm that Insteon devices from both the USA and Australian devices (both transmitters and responders) can all work together without any issues..



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Sydney2153
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Australia
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Posted - 01/21/2019 :  9:19:00 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Further to this - you should also note that the Homeseer software using the Insteon pluging will work with the Australian hub.
Also Homeseer, via the Hub, can control any of the Insteon devices that have a working voltage range of 120 - 277 volts.

They will respond to power line signals from the Australian Hub or the USA one.
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