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N3465S
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Posted - 12/07/2016 :  09:00:24 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have used X10 devices for years but switched mostly to Insteon several years ago. I still use X10 Lamp Modules to control certain items during the holidays. I have a cluster of three snowflakes with LED lamps over the door. They work fine until I send the OFF command. Upon receiving the OFF command the LEDs go "mostly OFF" but continue to flicker very dimly. While dim, they still go through their entire programmed routine. It's almost like there is a little voltage leaking into the Lamp Module from the AC outlet. I have tried 3 other basic X10 Lamp Modules with the same results. Identical X10 Lamp Modules control other strands of LED lights in the next room and work flawlessly. Any thoughts?

Tfitzpatri8
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Posted - 12/07/2016 :  09:41:16 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
See http://forum.smarthome.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=18504
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N3465S
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Posted - 12/07/2016 :  10:09:05 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So, if I understand the other discussion correctly, you are saying that it doesn't matter if I am NOT using an Insteon Lamp Module in this case, but instead using an X10 Lamp Module for simple on and off? The X10 lamp module is looking for more of a load just as the Insteon module does?
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BLH
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Posted - 12/07/2016 :  12:23:58 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
X10 Lamp Modules have a Local Control Sensing circuit. It is known to keep LED loads glowing when Off. Though the exact LED set may or may not work, depending on its design. So some of them may work OK and others may glow.

Insteon Lamp Modules also have a Local Control Sensing Circuit. So they also can keep small loads like LED's glowing. Depends on the exact design of the LED's in question.

The small incandescent load mentioned in some other threads. Are known to correct glowing on both X10 and Insteon Modules.
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N3465S
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Posted - 12/07/2016 :  1:24:16 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks very much to both of the responders. I now understand what I've been battling and it makes sense. I appreciate your quick replies. (I went to the hardware store after lunch and purchased a $4 24-hour lamp timer. Problem solved!) ;o)
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BLH
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Posted - 12/08/2016 :  03:21:29 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sometimes simpler is so much better.
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barmaley
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Posted - 08/31/2020 :  01:21:43 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As far as I know it's normal for led lights to have a weak dimmer while of. Some of them have this thing others don't. The leds at my entrance had the same behaviour, I was worried that that could cause them burning down sooner but I found out later that led light almost never break. I guess it's fine until this glowing annoys you.

Edited by - barmaley on 09/10/2020 12:53:31 AM
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