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James Daniel
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Posted - 08/03/2017 :  10:24:54 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi all,
There is a function to be held at our house next month and as a part of it, we are renovating our home. We have decided for security alarm installation. My husband prefers DIY security system as it has an advantage of low maintenance cost. What are the things to be kept in mind while buying a DIY system? Is it really feasible to go with DIY? When I searched online I found that there are a lot of disadvantages of choosing a DIY home security system. It says that DIY system may lack in innovation and we have the repair responsibility. I am in a confusion of choosing one and would like to get your suggestions.
Thanks in advance.

Edited by - James Daniel on 08/09/2017 8:58:42 PM

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Posted - 08/04/2017 :  6:42:56 PM  Show Profile  Visit stusviews's Homepage  Reply with Quote
DIY security systems range from useless to more versatile than pay/month systems. In general, any system less than a few hundred dollars are minimal to useless.

There's no difference in maintenance for any quality system. IMO, the best DIY security system is ELK. You can start with a low cost system and build from there as need and budget allows.

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Geo
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Posted - 08/05/2017 :  11:37:52 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Installation of a security system is not a big deal, although you still have to know what you're doing - I've seen installations generating a lot of mysterious false alarms when, for example, there was a spot on a wall in a PIR detector's view which changed temperature with sun.
Also, many monitoring stations don't want to monitor DIY systems. A non-monitored system has too many limitations.

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Posted - 08/05/2017 :  1:03:32 PM  Show Profile  Visit stusviews's Homepage  Reply with Quote
What are those limitations?

BTW, there are bunches of companies that specialize in monitoring DIY security systems. And most DIY security systems can send an alert to both land line and mobile phones.

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James Daniel
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Posted - 08/09/2017 :  9:00:19 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for all your replies.
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Geo
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Posted - 08/12/2017 :  12:05:11 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There are, essentially, two major groups of problems. One has to do with the audible alarm - in many cases it is ignored and if the system has false alarms people will complain. For an intruder it is also possible to cut the wires to the siren or externally cause the system to alarm until the owner turns it off.
The second group has to do with internal monitors. A monitoring station will know if and when any part of the system no longer operates properly. Without remote monitoring the owner may not pay attention to false codes or in his absence the system just goes down. As well, it is much simpler to identify false alarm causes whether internally or externally generated.
Yes, there are companies not adverse to monitoring any system - it brings revenues, but if there are many false alarms they usually disconnect. A monitoring station has many procedures to follow in case of an alarm, false or bona fide. Else there could be legal repercussions. Police, if they are dispatched to a false alarm put pressure on the monitoring station to fix it or they won't respond any more. In the end it all depends how competent is the person installing the system.

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alex_mercer
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Posted - 09/19/2017 :  12:24:34 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I will be installing a security system at the end of the week. I'm still deciding on which one to buy. It must be easy to do it yourself, right? Even if you get stuck, there must be guides and tutorials, and whatnot.

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Posted - 09/19/2017 :  2:09:51 PM  Show Profile  Visit stusviews's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Elk is a highly rated DIY security system.

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LoneDadSurvivor
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Posted - 10/09/2017 :  06:41:08 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You can opt to the wireless cams like the Canary with easy to follow installation guide. One thing i don't like much about it though is the cloud subscription. This can probably help.
https://smartrobotichome.com/smart-security-camera-comparison/

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Elk systems do not require a cloud subscription. Notification can be provided by any or all of a phone call, email, or text message.

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Naniero
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Posted - 08/01/2018 :  07:41:09 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've used various strategies over the years, some of which have proven highly effective, and others that have yet to be tested. Here are some thoughts.

I installed a system https://secretstorages.com/best-outdoor-wireless-security-camera-system-with-dvr/ on a home in a neighborhood that had had a rash of burglaries - all while nobody was at home. The homeowner didn't care what happened while she was away - just didn't want an uninvited intruder. She had a rear porch with a sliding door that would have been a natural place for a burglar to look for an unlocked opening, b/c it was fenced with almost no visibility. Burglars also prefer sliding doors b/c they are so easy to force open with a crowbar.

One of the best elements of a system is surprise - so I planned a surprise in 2 ways. First, almost everyone who has heard a house alarm knows that they (usually) draw very little attention and are not an effective deterrent b/c they are often just not very loud. Often the only siren is on the inside of the house, and can't be heard from inside the house next door.

1st surprise - an extra-loud siren was mounted in the soffit DIRECTLY over the sliding glass door. 2nd surprise - I placed a pole in the bottom track of the door, and intentionally made it about 2 inches too short. I placed the contact so that the door had to move about one inch before the signal would activate. I also installed an extra loud siren at the front of the house, above the front door, and a flashing beacon on one of the higher roof features.

Within one week, there was a neighborhood watch meeting for the police to talk to the homeowners about all of the burglaries, and tell them to beef up their vigilance. During the meeting, the burglar went to the very house I had set up. The homeowner had, true to form, forgotten to lock the back door. I would have paid $200 to have seen his face when he felt the door start to move and then stop suddenly by the pole as the alarm went off directly over his head! Lucky for him he had to run off to change his diaper, because this time the homeowner was at home, and she was ready with her gun.

On another home (knowing how easily alarms can be defeated) I installed window contacts on the windows, and on the inside of the window shades, where they could not be seen from the outside. Same principle of surprise and redundancy, but this one has not been tried by a burglar that I know of. If the bad guy defeats the window contact, he thinks he's home free, but when he moves the blind the alarm (with multiple sirens in key positions) goes off like gangbusters.

The homeowners were overall happy with this setup, but had a few false alarms until they trained themselves not to move the blinds after the alarm was set. They were mini-blinds, with the contacts mounted to the window-sill at the bottom. This enabled the homeowner to turn them open or closed with the alarm set, but not to raise them.

Think about surprising the bad guy, having redundant security measures, etc. . . Also, try out sdepot.com website or look up security system wholesalers for your area. Any electrician can usually buy the stuff from them (very cheap), and help you with questions - especially if you can find one who's willing to barter a little.

Hope this helps.

Kevin Smith

Edited by - Naniero on 08/03/2018 06:21:48 AM
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