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Got2Have
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Posted - 04/10/2018 :  8:28:12 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am using a KeypadLinc Dimmer 8 Button (2334-2) to control dimmable ceiling lights. I also have an ISY994i Pro.

I want to turn on the lights using the same intensity set when turned off. Since the intensity is variable I can't set an "On Level" for the light scene.

Is there a way to do this natively with the 2334-2 and 2774D devices or writing an ISY program and/or variables/states?

Tfitzpatri8
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Posted - 04/10/2018 :  11:14:52 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You would first have to set the device to remember the last on level. I don’t think you can do that with the ISY’ Administrative Console, but you ought to be able to do it manually. Turn the keypad load off using the main button, single-tap the Set button to enable the Resume Dim feature, then leave the keypad alone for 5 minutes.

After waiting the required 5 minutes, verify the setting by adjusting the dimmer level, tapping the Off button, then tapping the main On button to confirm it resumes at the same level.

After that, I imagine you would want to use an ISY program to send the device a direct ‘on’ command any time you wanted to use the Resume Dim setting, followed by direct command to turn Off. As you mentioned, sending the keypad any scene commands would override the Resume Dim setting and move the dimmer to the level defined in the scene instead.

For all things ISY-related, be sure to see the ISY forum here: http://forum.universal-devices.com
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Tfitzpatri8
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Posted - 04/11/2018 :  09:36:00 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Strike that 3rd paragraph—turning on with a direct command would turn on to the level in the command, and turning on with a secondary switch would turn on to the scene dim level, so the Resume Dim would only apply if the switch was turned back on by taping the On paddle of the primary dimmer.

For everything else, you’d need to capture the dimmer level with a query when it was on and use programs to change the scenes to reflect an approximation of that level.
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Got2Have
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Posted - 04/11/2018 :  09:43:32 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I see now that this is a question that should be directed to the ISY forum. Perhaps a program to capture the dim level as the switch is turned off. Then use that value when switched on. If I could only see an example I could probably figure it out.
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rjspiceman
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Posted - 12/29/2018 :  5:12:17 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Had a similar issue where I installed some pendant lights employing an inline dimmer switch and put it in a scene with one of the buttons on an 8-button dimmer switch. I wanted the pendant lights to come on at 50% so I set the scene as such, however when I'd hit the button on the keypad, it would go to 100%. Seems you can't set the on level with an multi-button switch. So, using the ISY controller, I wrote a quick and dirty program:

If
.....Status 'KF Pendant Lights' is not OFF
Then
.....Set 'InLine SW (Pendant Lights)' 50%

Works like a charm. The lights do come on full for a split second and then adjust down, but, it's sufficient for my needs.

As mentioned above, you can capture the last level used upon state change to OFF and then save it in a variable for the next state change to not OFF, however that's a bit more than I need.




-Ryan
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oberkc
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Posted - 12/29/2018 :  5:19:58 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Seems you can't set the on level with an multi-button switch.


I do not believe that this is true. If you define a keypad button as a scene controller and inlinelinc as responder you can, indeed, define 50% as the responder level.

In the admin panel scene definition, make sure you click on the keypad button rather than scene name. Set the inlinelinc responder level to 50%.

Remember, responders can have different ON levels for each controller. Just because the scene-level response is set to 50% does not mean that the response to the other controllers is the same.
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rjspiceman
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Posted - 12/30/2018 :  2:47:49 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Agreed on the concept (I have over 70 devices and twenty some programs running) and have employed it successfully with other scenes containing wall switches, outlets, and inlinelinc's), however it doesn't seem to work with the multi-button keypads.

The 8 scene button switch I have is a 2334-2 KeypadLinc Dimmer v45. Not sure if there are newer models perhaps, but from my ISY controller, the buttons are toggles - there is no option to set the on-level. In the scene, there is an option to apply changes (i.e. on level) to all devices in the scene, but it won't take on the button since it's a toggle. I did set the on-level on the responder in the scene (an InLIneLinc dimmer) but the button simply overrides the setting and puts the scene at full. Have you actually tried this with a multi-button device? If so, and it works, please let me know what version(s) your devices are running. Some of my devices are pushing eight years or better (although the keypad is newer since the first one failed after a few years).

-Ryan
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oberkc
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Posted - 12/30/2018 :  3:53:06 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, I have keypad buttons as scene controllers and dimmer devices as responders. Ihave had such setup for nearly as long as I have useed an ISY (about ten years).

Your understanding is as mine regarding the secondary buttons themselves...they are either on or off. However, when I put tham ina scene (ascontroller) and dimmable device (lamplincs, dimmer switch, etc...) as responder, I set the ON level of the responders to any level between 0 and 100%. Pressing the keypad button results in those responder devices going to the pre-defined levels.
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