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Bigbarry
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Posted - 11/18/2018 :  2:27:45 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have been upgrading my house with Alexa compatible smart switches. I foolishly wired up a Wemo dimmer to control my outside dimmer lights. 2 weeks it was fine but of course, it cannot handle the load so the hardware failed.

What is the recommendation for a smart switch (doesn't have to be a dimmer) that can handle 11 outdoor Pillar lights (with 3 candelabra bulbs in each)

I figured I would ask you smart folk, rather than keep burning through switches

Thanks!

BigBarry

oberkc
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Posted - 11/18/2018 :  4:42:24 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
How much power to all these lights take? I would think that with LED lights, even 33 bulbs would consume less than 300watts. Are you still using incandescent?

BTW, relay switches often are higher rated than dimmers.

Edited by - oberkc on 11/18/2018 4:43:34 PM
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Bigbarry
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Posted - 11/18/2018 :  4:49:19 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ive only recently bought the house. id say 75% are incandescent.

Im not an electrician but I can tell you there are 33 bulbs and probably 26 of them are incandescent, with the rest LED

Ive gone through 2 Wemo Dimmers. One lasted 3 weeks, one 3 days

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oberkc
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Posted - 11/19/2018 :  03:51:10 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If this were me, I would replace them with LED to start.

If we assume they are 40W each and 33 bulbs is 1300 watts. If they are 60w, that is well over 1800 watts total for that circuit. A standard dimmer from Lutron has a capacity of well less than this. A typical relay wall switch should be able to handle the 1300w load, but might be overloaded if your bulbs are 60w. The smart switches I use are insteon and Z-wave. Dimmer versions of those switches can handle 600w resistive (incandescent) or much less if LED.

The WmMo relay can handle 1800 watts. The Wemo dimmer, according to the Belkin web page, can handle 400w incandescent or 150w LED/CFL. In my mind, your best bet is to use a relay switch and it looks as if the wemo is as good as any. But, I would check your bulbs to see what wattage they are, and to calculate your total load. Most switches, I would guess, are going to max out at 1800 watts total. Make sure you are below this.
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Bigbarry
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Posted - 11/19/2018 :  07:19:12 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you for the advice. The original switch was a lutron rocker with the dimmer slider by the side.

Today Im going to buy the LED bulbs and Ill switch in a wemo normal switch.

Ive actually mixed and matched in places with the Z-wave simply because after I started, I found the dreaded white wire missing and the GE Z-wave works without

Thanks so much

BigBarry

Edited by - Bigbarry on 11/19/2018 07:29:33 AM
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oberkc
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Posted - 11/19/2018 :  09:00:22 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Even the lutron dimmers have limitations. The largest I have seen short of those giant heat-sink versions is 1000w. I am surprised if that one did not get a little warm
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Bigbarry
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Posted - 11/19/2018 :  09:28:26 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I believe the Lutron one in there was there for 9 years before I removed

All new to me this

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oberkc
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Posted - 11/19/2018 :  3:15:57 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
I believe the Lutron one in there was there for 9 years before I removed


I don't doubt it. Perhaps there is more margin in Lutron switches. Maybe they got lucky. Maybe these are 25W light bulbs (did you ever confirm)?

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Bigbarry
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Posted - 11/20/2018 :  06:50:47 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I removed all teh bulbs - there were 27 x 60 watt bulbs

I replaced all with 4 watt LEDs. Put in a Z-wave that can handle 150w and amazingly, Best buy gave me a refund on the 2 dimmers I screwed up with no questions asked. Sorry not sorry

BigBarry
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