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peterlandis
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Posted - 01/26/2019 :  4:44:54 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Zwave offers a wall switch (ZFM-80US/DA065 ) that is powered by 110V and acts as a relay for low voltage sources. This works perfectly for controlling a fireplace because they are controlled via low voltage as seen in this video https://youtu.be/tlGb7ITMZHw

Is there an equivalent Insteon low voltage walll switch or combo? The Insteon I/O line is a plug in device so this won’t work as I’m looking for a wall switch to control a low voltage to a fireplace.

Tfitzpatri8
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Posted - 01/26/2019 :  5:00:09 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I’ve built controls using a mechanical decora-style switch connected to a Micro On/Off module connected to the coil of a small 110 VAC relay. I use the relay to switch the low-voltage component.
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peterlandis
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Posted - 01/26/2019 :  6:41:34 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So a relay like this https://www.supplyhouse.com/Honeywell-Aube-RC840T-120-120v-Relay-w-Built-In-24V-Transformer?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIqb7FtfeM4AIVwrXACh3TMAFIEAQYASABEgKxbPD_BwE

Can you list the one you have and how you wired it up? Is yours low voltage?

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Tfitzpatri8
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Posted - 01/26/2019 :  8:29:40 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nope, that link isn’t anything close to what you would need. You want the coil rated for line voltage so it can be powered by the load output of the micro module, right?

Try mouser.com as a possible source. You want a small, 120 VAC coil, SPST relay.

(You probably also want to find a local electrician who can help before experimenting with home brew line voltage to low voltage stuff. There’s probably special precautions they’d want to take to avoid the possibility that an insulator or connection failure put line voltage on that miliamp circuit.)
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peterlandis
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Posted - 01/27/2019 :  10:33:08 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The relay that I linked above hooks up to a normal switch and triggers the relay which is connected to the low voltage system. Couldn’t you just hook up a normal Insteon 2 wire switch to this relay and the output of this relay would then go to the fireplace. The Insteon switch would trigger the relay to open and close to turn on and off the fireplace. Why the micro module is needed?
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Tfitzpatri8
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Posted - 01/27/2019 :  10:40:18 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by peterlandis

The relay that I linked above hooks up to a normal switch and triggers the relay which is connected to the low voltage system. Couldn’t you just hook up a normal Insteon 2 wire switch to this relay and the output of this relay would then go to the fireplace. The Insteon switch would trigger the relay to open and close to turn on and off the fireplace. Why the micro module is needed?


Ok, I misread it the first time. You would still need to use a regular Insteon relay-style device to drive it, a relay load wouldn’t be compatible with a dimmer switch. Relay switches are bulkier, to accommodate much bigger loads, so the Micro Module would be an easier fit.
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peterlandis
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Posted - 01/27/2019 :  11:38:20 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Zwave ZFM-80US/DA065 combines the switch and the relay into one component. To bad Insteon doesn’t have a similar I/O link as a single switch component like zwave.
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BLH
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Posted - 01/28/2019 :  03:28:46 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
They did at one time but not at the present.
It was a SwitchLinc {2476S if memory serves me don't remember the hardware revision} with both relay connections brought out. You could switch AC like the other revisions by connecting one of the relay wires to the Line input or you could use the two wires as a dry contact output.
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