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noithatgooccho
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Vietnam
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Posted - 01/07/2021 :  11:19:18 PM  Show Profile  Visit noithatgooccho's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hello,
I need to update my system. I have old X10 dimmers that don't work so well anymore. I want to go with Insteon but I want to be able to control them with my home theater IR remote. I currently use an X10 IR543. I assume that wont work with Insteon dimmers?

Can anyone point me in the right direction?

Thanks much.

oberkc
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Posted - 01/08/2021 :  04:08:53 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Most insteon devices responded natively to X-10 for a while, but I understand that capability may not be there in many of them. The standard rocker switch dimmer does NOT advertise X-10 anymore, for example. I have heard some say that the support is still there, but not advertised or described in the manual. I cannot say whether this is true for the devices you would want.

There are controller/hubs out there that could still recognize X-10 commands, and be programmed to turn on insteon (or other types) of switches in response. The one I use (ISY-994) could directly receive the IR commands from your remote, even, and respond as programmed.

I also cannot help but wonder for how long you think you will be using your current remote and relying on IR and X-10 receivers for control of your lighting. I perceive that integration between remote and lighting to be moving to network-based communication. It seems to me a good idea that, whatever solution you decide, that it is part of a path towards the network communication.
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robinsharma
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Posted - 01/10/2021 :  02:44:04 AM  Show Profile  Visit robinsharma's Homepage  Reply with Quote
X10 uses powerline networking to send commands to switches. However, commands go only in one direction--from controller to module--and they can sometimes not reach the destined module due to interference. Also, there is not feedback loop, so the controller can't tell if a command was received and acted upon.
- Insteon also uses powerline networking, but also adds RF (radio frequency) connectivity to create a wireless system. It is backward compatible with devices that use the X10 standard.
- Z-Wave uses a proprietary, low-power RF signal to wirelessly send commands from the controller to modules. It's been adopted by more than 200 manufacturers worldwide-- including Black & Decker, Schlage, Wayne Dalton, Leviton, and ViewSonic--enabling you to more easily mix and match components from different companies when setting up your home automation system.
- ZigBee uses an internationally recognized RF signal standard, but most home automation systems that use ZigBee require contractor installation.

The Insteon, ZigBee, and Z-Wave technologies utilize a mesh network solution, which means that the devices within the system can talk to one another and act as repeaters for commands. Also, the more devices you have connected to the system, the more reliable your system will be.

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BLH
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Posted - 01/10/2021 :  03:22:52 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Many of the presently sold Insteon devices. Have dropped X10 support and will no longer work with X10.
The Insteon RF never worked with X10 commands only Insteon ones.
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